IDEA REPOSSESSION?
Posted by terrance | Filed under Happenings
A little over a week ago, Universal Pictures debuted the trailer for the studio’s upcoming film, Repo Men. The movie is set in the not-so-distant future where an evil corporation finances organ transplants, but when recipients can’t keep up with their organ payments…repo men are deployed to reclaim the company’s property. Sound familiar?
Since the trailer went live, I’ve been flooded with emails and messages from fans of REPO! The Genetic Opera—many of them outraged—asking if I have anything to do with this new film, wondering if Hollywood is really that unoriginal, wanting to know when I’m going to sue for copyright infringement, and how they can help.
I’m continually impressed by the supportiveness of REPO!’s fans and am touched by this outpour of solidarity—thank you, all! But rather than attempt to address individually your numerous inquiries, I’ll outline my take on the REPO! vs. Repo Men tango here.
Firstly: the creators of REPO!, Darren Smith and I, have nothing whatsoever to do with Repo Men. Nor does REPO!’s producers, or director.
Secondly: while the release of the Repo Men trailer has alerted many of you to the existence of this similarly-premised project, REPO!’s creators and producers have been aware of Repo Men for some time: shortly after the film version of REPO! was greenlit, we were informed that Universal was working on a suspiciously similar film. At the time, the project was titled Repossession Mambo.
Startled by this news and fearing a potential lawsuit, REPO!’s producers and legal team—small players compared to the industry behemoth that is Universal Pictures—asked Darren Smith and I to come forward with all of our copyright paperwork for REPO!. We did.
Our documentation included evidence of REPO!’s almost ten year journey from small black box theatre performances to an off-off Broadway production to a short film that led to the financing of the eventual 2008 movie. We presented flyers, play bills, photographs, and verification of a web presence that dated back to the late ‘90’s when Darren Smith and I formed our theatrical rock duo, The Gallery.
As The Gallery, Darren and I wrote and performed what we called ten-minute operas—short stories put to music—including the tale of The Necromerchant’s Debt about a grave robber living in a dystopian future. The middle song in this three-song operetta, “The Genetic Repo Man”, was about the organ snatching activities of the publicly dreaded Repo Man. The Necromerchant’s Debt became REPO! and the song—virtually unchanged—is now the opening number to our movie.
On the flipside, we were told that Universal’s ostensibly cloned concept was based on a book. At the time, we could find no record of the novel, which was later published in 2009 as The Repossession Mambo—one full year after REPO! the film was released.
Satisfied that Darren Smith and I came up with REPO! long before Repo Men (or Repossession Mambo) came into existence, our producers carried on with the production of our film, but at the time we asked the same question that is now being posed to me in a continuous outpour of letters from REPO!’s fans: can we sue these guys?
No.
Several entertainment attorneys told us that while the script, characters, and music of REPO! are copyright protected, the ideas are not. In other words: unless exact lines of dialogue or identical lyrics were lifted from REPO! and placed into Repo Men—which would prove beyond a doubt that plagiarism had occurred—that we did not have a case. We were further told that attempting to litigate against Universal’s mammoth legal team would be, in effect, financial suicide.
So, in response to your many expressed concerns: no, we are not planning to sue Repo Men. Further: even if I wanted to bring legal action against Universal Pictures, it’s really not my battle to have; Twisted Pictures and Lions Gate Films now own the rights to REPO! Any potential legal action on behalf of the property would need to be initiated by these studios.
All that said, after watching the Repo Men trailer, I feel that while the two films share a premise, there appears to be little else in common. REPO! exists as a whacky art film, a sliver of cult cinema. Repo Men looks like a gigantically-budgeted Hollywood blockbuster. And Repo Men is NOT an opera.
Also: it seems unlikely that Repo Men, no matter how successful it may be at the box office, will ever garner the sort of intense fan support that REPO! has. I doubt we will see people dressing up as Jude Law (who stars in Repo Men) and acting out scenes from the film in the aisles of theatres over a year after the movie’s initial release. This is what is happening with REPO! All over the world.
As fans of REPO!, it seems that one of the things you love about our project is its uniqueness. Repo Men does not threaten this. It exists almost as the antithesis to what you love about REPO!: it’s mainstream. Because of this, Repo Men will undoubtedly have a huge marketing budget and a public presence that REPO! never did (and probably never will). As fans of REPO!, this gives you a unique opportunity to testify to those who bring up Repo Men, those who may be unaware of the existence of REPO! The very controversy over what looks like idea theft could rally a whole new viewership to REPO!’s fandom.
Emotions aside, I think the trailer to Repo Men looks pretty cool, and I wish the filmmakers nothing but luck with their project.
**UPDATED FEBRUARY 23, 2010: I received so many responses to this blog entry that I posted a follow-up article, “Idea Repossession? Part II”, which can be viewed here.
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December 30th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Thats just WRONG! D: You should be able to sue, its the same fucking thing as Repo! I am pissed off at this idea. I bet boycott the movie though. We Repo fans will not stand for this, Terrance. You have all of our support
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December 30th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
When I e-mailed you on Myspace, I hadn’t had time after seeing the Repo Men trailer to have anything but a knee-jerk reaction. I was angry, angry that I felt they were stepping on you guys and how you busted your asses to bring us the wonder of Repo! I read DLB’s bulletins and blog about being proud to be a Repo! fan and state that over hate for what looked like infringement. I love being a proud “stand-in-line-in-the-rain-and-cold-to-support-my-Repo-beliefs” kind of girl, no matter how I am looked at for it. Thank you for giving us Repo! and thank you for being so gracious in everything you do, for being so amiable to all your fans (including myself, of course
). We will always be your crowd to please, no matter how many metal organs are torn from peoples’ bodies by Forrest Whitaker and Jude Law.
Motherfucking TESTIFY!
-D.A.-
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December 30th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I refuse to support this new movie, and will do everything I can to let EVERY one know that I ever hear talking about it that it is a stolen idea. This will be the only retribution I can give though.
What arrogant assholes.
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December 30th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Uh, speak for yourself. I’m totally already putting together my Jude Law costume and brushing up on my lines.
But seriously, folks.
I’m glad you wrote about this because I think your take on this whole dumb situation is something fans definitely need to hear from you.
It’s stupid this movie has to happen, but I think we can all take comfort in the fact that Repo Men is essentially going to be a flash in the pan. These kinds of movies come and go and no one’s going to be half as passionate for a big-budget, Hollywood piece of poo as we are for REPO!
Plus, I mean, come on. Jude Law in an action thriller? He’s not an action star, he’s Oscar Wilde’s boyfriend!
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December 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I most certainly won see Repo Men. Nothing could compare to Repo the genetic opera. And Jude Law, is that a joke? I am not a Jude Law fan. I dont get it (or him) at all. Thanks for your response. It means the world to me.
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December 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
It’s still lame *pout*
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December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Well put, Terrance. I know you have nothing to worry about (As I’m sure your weren’t anyway) Repo Men has nothing on Repo. Like you said, There wont be people dressed as Jude Law’s character, awaiting HOURS in line to see this movie.
There also wont be shadow casts performing this movie
It will not be playing in theaters a year + after it’s premiere.
There wont be a successful cult following for it.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
It wont have the love, connection, and dedication as Repo! does with it’s fans
As you probably can tell with your inbox full of emails, you and Darren’s fans are heartily dedicated and concerned for Repo. But the truth of the matter is Repo! is a survivor. More than a year later and still in theaters with shadow casts and viewers coming dressed in costume is testament of that. Repo Men debuting will take away NOTHING of the outstanding support of Repo’s fans.
And people who have the gall to say their going to see Repo Men and had never heard of Repo need to be slapped with a Zydrate gun.
And I personally volunteer to issue out the first round of slaps.
^_^
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December 30th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
T.,
Just wanted to applaud your response to the Repo Men Project. I think that it is a testament to your hidden character that you’ve taken the higher road.
It’s my hope that the people who do watch Repo Men will also be inspired to check out the sensation that inspired the re-write. They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery. I think you and Darren should be flattered that you are being imitated by such a successful machine like Universal Studios. Truly, kudos to you both for being so inspiring!
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December 31st, 2009 at 12:28 am
I think that it’s totally cool that Universal is picking up on this off kilter kind of story line. Even if it isn’t that “original” by Repo! fan’s standards, it will be very original to mainstream audiences. And due to the (possible) success of the Jude Law movie, it might boost the public’s interest in Repo! as the two appear to be related.
Similarly how RENT boosted people’s interest in La Boheme.
Besides, no mainstream Hollywood big budget could ever touch what made Repo! so special to its fans in the first place. I mean Repo! has its own subculture? What’s Jude Law got? Well whatever it is, it’s probably expensive but not nearly as interesting as anything Repo! could produce.
Much Zydrate peddling love,
Selene, aka Blonde Amber
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December 31st, 2009 at 12:43 am
An Internet friend of mine sent me a message, asking me if I’d seen the new trailer for the movie in question. As soon as I started watching it, I instantly thought it was a rip off to The Genetic Opera. Sadly, no matter what the fans may think, it apparently isn’t, though it may indeed scream the fact. However, you did point out some excellent points, and I’d like to throw out a few of my own.
-The Genetic Opera set the stage for spinoff plots. That’s pretty much a given. But it’s about more than a loud, obnoxious blockbuster, which I see the new movie turning out to be. There’s a obscure message laced within all the lyrics of The Opera, that probably won’t be as well portrayed in the new film. In short, it’s the prospect of what our current generation can turn our future into. Aside from that, Repo! was catchy, brilliantly executed, and didn’t need a huge and undoubtedly flashy budget to make it amazing.
In closing, I guess this is all I’d like to add. Often imitated, but never duplicated. Repo! is great, and the other film has the potential to be great as well, but the two will never be fully parallel to one another.
Hope that all came out well.
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December 31st, 2009 at 1:14 am
Love those flyers, thanks for sharing them with us.
And in response to your final words:
“I wish the filmmakers nothing but luck with their project.”
You, sir, are a far better man than I.
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December 31st, 2009 at 2:10 am
I was wondering when you were going to post about this. It irritates me, and I am sure many others, that ideas can not be copy written!
I think that it is so Bogus that writers can’t shop there scripts around for fear of it being stolen.
I can only hope that you are right and that the similarities of the films will only bring more of an audience to the Original Repo!
Best of luck to you and Darren, along with Twisted Pictures and Lionsgate.
Thank you for posting.
Alexie Star
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December 31st, 2009 at 3:31 am
So hey, you wanna go see Repo Men with me?
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December 31st, 2009 at 5:29 am
Well said! While it’s kind of dick-like to swoop in and just about completely hack a premise, the differences between Repo! And Repo Men ARE vast. And it’s true that no matter how much money Repo Men makes, it’s most likely going to be one of those action flicks that nobody really remembers a couple months later. Whereas Repo! is already classic cult, unforgettable and precious to those that love it.
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:58 am
Your calm step-aside is admirable. I feel this whole experience is an injustice and violation…however, I commend your ability to white flag and enjoy the success that your baby has brought you.
THAT said….I encourage EVERYONE to write magazines and local/national newspapers (be nice) to gather more fans and spread the REPO! we love..
ROLLONG STONE, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, FANGORIA & VARIETY are just some ideas…they can ignore 1 but NOT 100’s…
TESTIFY!
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December 31st, 2009 at 8:06 am
Although I was upset to wake up and hear about Repo Menj, I soon watched the trailor then read this blog, and I agree, it does not copy Repo! as closely as it would need to for plagerism. It does look like a cool movie to go see, but I dont think I can watch it with out comparing it to Repo! because I have seen it so many times it has become engraved in my brain. Just watching the trailor looked like Repo! to me without the goth part or the opera part. The only similar concepts or ideas I found in the trailor were the whole concept of organ repo, and the fact that Jude Law’s character ends up in the same boat as Nathan Wallace does.
So will I go see it? Yeah probably. Will I like it? Probably not as much as I like Repo! but I have a feeling it will be good.
Being an aspiring producer/director I know that there are truely only 12 possible stories to tell and no matter what movie you look at it will be in one of those catagories, so let more movies like this one come out and create a 13th catagory. I think after all is said and done, Repo! fans will stay Repo! fans and those who haven’t heard of it will after they watch or hear about Repo Men becasue the two stories have similar ideas and concepts, Repo Men can bring Repo! out of the shadows.
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December 31st, 2009 at 10:02 am
oh thats so cool , my anti spam word was van . so i would like to say that even thought you can’t sue repo men for the movie . it still ticks me off about it , i am sure they took more from repo! than what you say in the trailer.
I love repo! and am very happy you have said something abot this. I love your work and i love the flyers that you put up with this blog post.
repo men will not have the same following as repo! has because they are a big blockbuster like you said .
you will always have my support for repo!
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December 31st, 2009 at 10:34 am
prior to reading this blog, i had not yet seen the trailer for repo men. i just watched it, and i think that although the strong similarities are there in the overall premise of the film, it seems like more of an action film with less of an emphasis on the characters’ stories (like repo! has). also, i agree with what you said, terrance, about the fact that repo men will most likely not gain the cult following that repo! now has. i also think it will be interesting to see if people who see repo men, or seek out the trailer, will be introduced to repo! as a result, since when i did a google search to find the repo men trailer, a bunch of stuff about repo! came up in my results.
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December 31st, 2009 at 11:00 am
I, for one, will not be seeing the upcoming movie, Repo man. I find it offensive that despite the slight differences, that they would actually put out a similar movie at all. No one put out a blockbuster where cross dressing aliens from transsexual came down and lured innocent humans into various acts of sexual activities, and claimed it wasn’t the same bc “there is no singing”
I do not support there project and will spread the word about there (if not defined by law) plagiarism, and instead steer the masses to the original Repo Movie!!!
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December 31st, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and those awesome flyers etc…I understand where you’re coming from and I know it won’t get the same response that Repo! gets, the love and the dedication….but it still pisses me off for you guys and for our fandom. I cant help it, I cant separate my emotions from logic right now…
I guess we’re all just protective, huh? xD Don’t want anything to ruin our little family.
Hope you and Enoch enjoyed your holidays, by the way.
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December 31st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
This is a great response Terrance, although I doubt I’ll be first in line to go see Repo Men. I much prefer my beloved genetic opera. Maybe we should think of this as a way to turn more people on to Repo! though, I know I for one will present Repo! to people talking about this new movie.
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December 31st, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I say we put showings of Repo the Genetic Opera in a movie theater with showtimes matching Repo Men and see who draws the bigger more fantastic crowd.
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Classy response TZ, and I’d expect no less from you. I fought for your corner on a recent heated thread on Aintitcoolnews. I think I can add to what you’ve said by commenting that while I understand that you wish the RM folks well, I *don’t* think it will be a blockbuster, and the Opera will be playing for years or decades after this thing is forgotten. And in any case, I hope Alex Cox sues them!
I’ll be in LA in January and February, we should hang if you can find the time in your busy schedule!
Happy new year to you sir,
Matteo in AZ
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Congrats on taking this all so well. As a writer I can honestly say if this idea theft were happening to me I would be completely, mindlessly, outraged. You take it like a man, so you’re the better person.
Thanks for the blog, I’m sure a lot of people were wondering how you felt about Repo Men after DLB wrote about the trailer.
Love and Luck as always, Happy New Year!
Sheri
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I envy your calm outlook and eloquent way of addressing this issue. I am very much a knee-jerk reaction sort of person and it takes me a lot of time to cool down enough to respond in any kind of way like you have.
I think the reason I feel so venemous towards this “Repo Men” movie is because its yet another example of Hollywood’s inability to do anything original any more.
While it isn’t an opera, and you’re right, it will never have the legion of fans following it – it has still taken a story dear to many of us and put that Hollywood ’shine’ to it that saddens me more than I care to admit.
However, all things considering, I will not be lobbying any premiers and sullying the Repo! name, nor will I be loving Repo! any less for this. The Genetic Opera is one of a kind, and no matter how many writers steal the idea, you will always have the original, and it’s loyal fans.
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December 31st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
“I say we put showings of Repo the Genetic Opera in a movie theater with showtimes matching Repo Men and see who draws the bigger more fantastic crowd.”
First, I just wanna say I think that’s an awesome idea!
It’d be hilarious too if they casted…like Megan Fox in some form of the Amber Sweet role, battle of the hotties; lol.
Second, till this blog I had not heard about the “Repo Men” film. Though I had indeed heard about Repossesion Mambo a while back. And I think, as most REPO! fans, my first basic reaction is outrage. Since REPO! is R rated(though admittedly no one really seems to care too much about what their children watch anymore), unless some under 17 year old kid came up with this Repo Men idea; I don’t think there’s a high chance that someone came up with this ‘original’ idea/premise on their own without seeing some form of REPO!(film, 10 minute opera, etc) as your & Darrens work. And it’s a shame that whomever can get away with it! I’d also like to add, & noo this is not me being bitter, it’s simply a fact, that you Terrance, & indeed like the entire cast of REPO!; each have more sex appeal & talent in your little fingers then Jude Law has in his whole body. And that’s coming from a fan of Jude Law! Lol.
But alas, basic outrage reaction aside, I too wish the film luck. If there’s really nothing to be done about it(except write strongly worded letters to people in high places, which I’ll admittedy probably do lol), then we should try to see the good of it. For one, if an idea is to be copied, at least it was a brilliant one created by brilliant people! Two, I have no doubt that this one film, despite my best efforts, will draw more people towards our REPO! within an opening weekend, than I’ve been able to in this past year! Like Michael Jackson, fans have been bickering over him for months now “Oh I’ve loved Michael since I was 5, you only knew who he was & started loving him when he died! Your not a real fan!”. I say that’s bullshit. Who the hell cares why or when someone starts loving someone/thing, as long as the loves there! Some people, where as we’ve loved REPO! since it’s start, may only know what it is & grow to love it after seeing Repo Men. It doesn’t matter whose loved it longest, so long as it’s audience grows & it means to them what it means to us now
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January 1st, 2010 at 6:31 am
Actually, I think it is kind of cute that Hollywood does REPO! Fanfiction now, too.
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January 1st, 2010 at 9:30 am
Wonderfully put, Terrance, and I admire yours and everyone else involved with Repo!’s very mature response to the release of this trailer. I know I’ve tried my best to introduce as many of my friends as I can to Repo! and it cheers me up no end to see those same friends joining the ‘I was a fan of Repo! The Genetic Opera before ‘Repo Men’!’ group on FB, knowing that I showed them the film. And that’s what Repo! fans will keep doing, telling all their friends and anyone who’ll listen about a great little rock opera, nevermind if there’s some blockbuster with a similar story in cinemas for a couple of weeks too. Testify!
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January 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I made another Repo! fan today, yay me!
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January 1st, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Terrance I just want to say that although it’s a kick in the teeth that Universal has decided to make Repo Men, REPO! Is so much better! (duh Captain Obvious) People will watch it at the movies and walk away from it being unmoved by it’s sell-out Hollywood script and bullshit special effects. Because Repo! Fans know the hard yards you and Darren did to get your Repo! Dream to come true we stick by you. Repo! Is a product of years of slaving and sweating & it makes us all love the originality of this movie. Repo men will never stir up this depth of emotion from it’s fans!
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January 2nd, 2010 at 1:32 am
im not mad at universal, im still mad at lionsgate for not promoting REPO the way it should have been. i found it by some strange stroke of luck and didnt know what i was seeing at the time.
I STILL WANT TO SEE REPO IN THE THEATRE WITH NO SHADOW CAST. when i take new friends to see it, the movie competes with the cast and they are lost…
REPO MEN…to me is just another ridiculous action movie and i dont watch action movies.
and REPO TGO is more than just a futuristic world of repossessions isnt it? its about people as possessions, fathers and daughters, death and grieving, family dysfunction, the old making mistakes so that the young can make theirs, and sexy characters (pavi and graverobber), and a beautiful opera singer. this year terrance i WILL be writing my teacher’s companion for REPO TGO!!! one day i’d love to teach a college class on it, right up there with Hamlet.
much love terrance. if anyone in los angeles is interested in a sing a long screening of REPO TGA i’m sooooooooooooooooo in! the music is so utterly fantastic…no, there is no competition. im sure its a shady deal, but it will probably bring some additional promotion for REPO TGA as these things usually do.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 am
Thank you for speaking about this… My friends and I saw the Repo Men trailer in the last few days, and were, I admit, outraged and shocked at what looked like blatant ripping-off of one of our most beloved films! I’ve even argued with people who try to say Repo! is unoriginal and a rip-off itself (ridiculous, and backed up by completely ignorant claims, of course).
Nothing will lessen my (and my friends’) love for Repo!, and if anything, this film will only incite us to spread the word! I understand the fact that ideas can’t be copyrighted, but I still think it’s wrong that the premise of this new film is SO closely lifted from Repo!. However, like you’ve said, aside from that shared premise of organizations controlling the sale of transplanted organs and their subsequent repossession upon non-payment, from what I can see of Repo Men, it’s true–the similarities end there. In fact, after that point in the preview, I frankly lost interest because the rest of the clip became Hollywood cliché… and Repo! TGO is ANYTHING but cliché. There is so much more in your film than just body parts and capitalism… More than Repo Men could hope to squeeze in between Jude Law’s lines.
Blatherings over…. Again, thank you so much for addressing this; it has been upsetting and worrying us since we first heard about it, and it’s good to know your view, if that makes sense.
Thanks for Repo!TGO, also!… There are very few films that I choose to watch over and over, and RTGO is an absolute must.
I wish you the best in 2010!
-D
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January 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
That Repo knock off pissed me off. The Opera is way better. It kicks this knock off in the ass.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
That Repo knock off pisses me off. The opera is way better. It kicks the knock off in the ass.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Well, as Graverobber says, “for every market a submarket grows”- The Genetic Opera is the submarket (and a bitchin’ one at that) to the Hollywood blockbuster…and, like Graverobber, the submarket makes one hell of a lasting impression…one that will definitely outlast the bigwigs.
Thank you for posting this, and thank you also for pointing those of us who e-mailed you in this direction.
You keep being your awesome and kind self and we’ll keep testifyin’ to the awesomeness of Repo. Hell, I think I gained a convert this weekend
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Bless you, and bless the rest of you fans who are just offering all these encouraging comments…reading over these, I realise even more just how fabulous the Repo family is and the fabulous company it attracts.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Terrance you are so fucking nice. That movie is a HUGE HUGE rip off in so many ways. It might not be exactly like your work but its inspired by it no doubt.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I think what pisses us fans off is the money. It’s just so bloody unfair that someone else sees your idea, runs off with it and gets a Hollywood budget when you worked on it for 10 years(more?) and got shafted by Lionsgate.
I personally still fantasise about seeing Repo! as a full-blown stage production…
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January 2nd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
You sir are made entirely of class.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 pm
No Peaches (dec 31st blog), he can see Repo Men with me, lol!
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January 3rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Very well-put Terrence. I saw the trailer last week and it didn’t upset me too much. I can see the differences. Mechanical organs vs. synthetic tissue? That’s a fairly big difference right there. Also, the repo men use scanners to see if someone’s deliquent instead of getting messages from the head of the corporation. The “90 days deliquent” is the same, but there’s a lot of loans in the real world that work like that. I think I will eventually see the movie when comes on TV, but I won’t be paying money on the theatre or renting it.
I don’t think anyone needs to discuss the idea of sueing or being outraged or anything. Similar idea/concept, but a very different movie with a very different fan-base.
By the way, you are so much sexier than Jude Law, even when not in costume.
-Monica aka “The Rose”
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January 4th, 2010 at 12:14 am
Hey Terrance,
Thanks for posting something about this, I was curious about this. What’s funny is, I guessed about all this stuff and it turns out it’s pretty much what you wrote. I think you are wise in the idea that we should educate the other fans about the REPO!verse. I also think you are correct in the fact that the repo mambo movie won’t be shown a year later and wont have shadow casts and costumed viewers. Thank you for posting the early artwork as well, I LOVE it! It’s cool to see the progression from where it began. xo
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January 4th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Wow – that’s a lesson in taking obstacles gracefully.
Although, as you said, “Repo Men” can actually only bring “REPO” more publicity. (I’m still peeved that they used a barcode in their title, though…almost have to admire the audacity). Well, should anyone praise “Repo Men” for its originality within earshot of a “REPO” fan, they might find themselves in for a half-hour lecture.
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January 4th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I think this is not the worst thing to happen, for our REPO i just went to amazon to look up the book this other story comes from and it recommended our REPO as something I might like also happened when i looked up the new film , it brought up our REPO, so there are ppl who will review this and bring it up, and certainly on IMDB, and YOUTUBE it will be brought up so a new audience could be born out of this whole deal imho.
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January 5th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
After reading this, and going to see the Repo Men trailer, I have to say…
Even without my love for REPO! I wouldn’t want to see it… To me it just seems like a shitty action movie, things that have been done before by everyone. Sure, they put the twist of “It’s the future! They have fancy organs!” on it… But in the end it’s just another lame action movie. If I’m dragged by friends, I’m probably going to see it, and I might even like it… But it’s not a major REPO! ripoff. I think the only thing that’s similar is the concept of the Repo man and the organs… The plot is entirely different. It’s not REPO!
I think people should stop freaking out and protesting it.
Use this for good, bring people to /our/ REPO!
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January 5th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
I know I said I wouldn’t see Repo Men in a former blog, but would change my mind (i am a woman, i’m allowed to change my mind) if I had the right company! You know what I mean:] From ‘the persistent one’.
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January 5th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Such a classy answer, TZ!
Indeed, these guys at Universal Repo Men won’t ever reach as many fans as The Genetic Opera, the work we all love and cherish. Plus, I agree with the idea that we might as well use this occasion to bring people to our side.
Repo! The Genetic Opera (theatre play and movie) created an entire fandom worldwide, while Repo Men is most likely to be relegated to a dusty shelf months later.
Guess that there’s no bigger display of appreciation for an author’s work than having his characters remembered and lyrics sung over and over, considering the way fans reacted to REPO!
Someone told me once that copying is a kind of flattering. So, it’s just a “flattering” move from minds that are waaaaay behind yours!
We will always support it!
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Long live the REAL Repo Cult! TESTIFY!
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Anna “BlindMag” Diniz
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January 6th, 2010 at 8:29 am
I do rather respect TZ’s response here. Of course my initial reaction to seeing the trailer for Repo Men was “What the flying moose is THAT?”, but if you take a step back you have to realise that TZ is right. Society always has to mainstream things, that way those who are too insecure to think that appreciating the way others think(Even if it’s not as they think) may not be WRONG, or how would they pump money out of all of those people as well?
Frankly, I don’t think this new movie will have much effect on the Repo! we all love, it will just be another one of those movies that come out, is seen, and promptly forgotten. Where as I(And I’m sure others) find theirselves woken up in the middle of the night with the songs from Repo! playing in their head. Mainstream versions will be created and eventually die, but art such as Repo! is eternal, because it’s something that touches the creative hearts within us instead of being something on the screen we’re staring at for an hour and a half.
-White Rabbit
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January 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
I’ve only seen the Repo Men trailer once, and my initial reaction was “OMFGREPORIPOFFGRRRR.” I’m still a bit annoyed by it, but… we can’t change what’s already going to happen, I guess. XD.
The only thing that’s going to really annoy me is if people who go to see this new movie turn to REPO! afterwards and go, “THEY STOLE FROM REPO MEN!” I’ve seen it happen before, and I am just thoroughly annoyed by it every time.
Also, I must say this: I’m a new fan of REPO!, and I love it to death. ^-^
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January 8th, 2010 at 12:32 am
I’m glad you are acknowledging about this matter here on your blog, because frankly, I was about to write to you as well, the very second I heard news of this movie. Instantly, I thought of REPO, and I still can’t believe they’d shamelessly release something so similar. Without a doubt, the cult classic status of REPO is what made them think they could do it, because if REPO had been as mainstream, they wouldn’t have dared do that.
But then again, as you said, this is never gonna get the kind of fan following REPO has. It’s just gonna be another movie at the cinema. The only thing bothering me is the fact that, since this one is mainstream, people will know of that one first, and consider it the “original”, which is wrong by a long shot.
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January 8th, 2010 at 1:08 am
Though I was very upset initially by the Repo men film, I am very impressed that you have handled it so very well. You are truly inspiring, not just as an artist but as a person. I am sure initially, this must have been difficult for you because it is clear to me that their film is unoriginal but you are really taking this in such stride. I think that us Repo! fans are truly fortunate to believe in such a powerful and wonderful work of art. Thanks again for creating such a magnificent masterpiece and for being the most awesome person!
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January 8th, 2010 at 7:53 am
I get what you’re saying and I’m glad that you posted about it. Were I you, sir, I would be writhing on the inside, but as long as you’re not kicking up a fuss, I’ll put all my swords back in their scabbards, lay down my guns, and give Jayne back his grenades.
HOWEVER, I still say that this entire thing is Lamey McLamepants come from the worst blue balls of hell and needs to be taken down with petrol and the friendly touch of St. John Allerdyce.
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January 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
I know you say you don’t wish them any ill luck but I’m still gonna yell “Boo” and chuck things at the TV when the trailer comes on…
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January 9th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
I mailed the good folks behind REPO MEN and expressed my disgust at their actions reg giving credit etc and even coloring the title similarly… not that they will give a rats butt..
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January 9th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
This makes me think of people who copy as a way of showing appreciation. (Such as cosplayers, imitating the character as a form of worship) So in a way I’m happy that bigwigs noticed REPO! enough to actually form an copyidea. Though I find it sad too, they couldn’t get the idea first, so they chose to just adapt around it and say it had nearly nothing similar.
I’m also conflicted. I want to see this movie to see in comparison to the awesomeness of REPO!. And I don’t want to see this because…well, you know.
As I ponder what to do, remember that I will always be REPO!’s,
SimplyFan
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January 12th, 2010 at 11:34 am
just watched the trailer. Repo! ftw Terrance. i’m so pissed. can’t anything just be amazing without some marketing creeps ripping it off and runing it? i loved the edge of Repo, because it’s so out there and different. i’m sorry dude. Repo! is a million times better.
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January 15th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Glad to see a mature reaction, while still pursuing and looking into your legal options. If it has to happen, take it standing up. I bet this movie draws tons of attention to your film, however. Imagine the google searches, all bringing up tons of results of people bitching about it being a rip off film- which will lead them to Repo!
thanks for the O.G. repo!
testify!
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January 20th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Oh, Mr. Zdunich… I think you’ve inspired something wonderful. Should my plan come to fruition, I’ll send you pictures and videos of the gloriousness in chaos.
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January 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Hey man! i just heard about this… i am sorry. but i support you guys- and i wont support Repo men. I is so a rip off and i cant stand for that! Repo! was awsome and i still tell people all the time to see it! Love to you all and i hope this REPO- poo poo men will generate some talk- i know people will have to see the similar idea- i think it will and man it might help REPO!
-Christine
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January 23rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
I am absolutely infuriated that this could possibly be happening. I am currently writing a book of my own which I hope to spin off into a comic and movie (which I would love your kind of help with, Terrence) and I couldnt stand if someone took the basis of my idea and did virtually the exact same thing with it. I feel that Repo is one of the most original ideas Ive seen in a very LONG time and am severely irritated that they would even consider bastardizing it already. I plan to boycot this movie and will be informing everyone in my contact list on my myspace, facebook and phone of this pure injustice.
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February 7th, 2010 at 7:59 am
This just proves once again that Hollywood has no originality. Though I doubt that their movie will ever match wits with REPO! the Genetic Opera. REPO! rocks too much and has to much of a fan base that this new rip-off film will ever gain.
I aplaud you for wishing them the best of luck, and even though I am, as well (as my obsessive-movie watching boyfriend [he has to see a movie at least once a week] and his friends) will be boycotting on seeing this movie. Besides I think Jude Law stinks as an actor…
All my friends, my boyfriend, and myself, give you our biggest support. I mean I’ve converted everyone I meet into REPO! fans and recommend it to everyone. I love that movie! I even sing it at work.
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February 8th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Wow, it’s kind of hard to believe that the first time I see this blog the newest entry is about the very movie that gets my blood boiling. No, not REPO!, of course, but this “repo men,” which I refuse to capitalized simply out of twisted principle.
I know you’ve already gotten plenty of people who have placed their own two cents (or respective currency) into this issue, but I’m about to throw my own in there, as well as maybe a few extra bucks as well. Anything to support REPO!.
First off, I am absolutely infuriated. REPO! has the most original story line I have seen in a while. It has characters I can connect to, songs I cannot stop listening to, and little in-jokes that connect its audience in ways many other movies simply cannot do. This is a movie with a tight-knit cult following, and this movie intended to get in on that. They wanted to use REPO!’s community, snatch us all up, and drag us over to their side. What they did not realize was that we are a community who is willing to fight tooth and nail and shotgun for our movie.
Second, I refuse to support this movie. As stated above, we are a community who will fight for this movie and its idea, and I am no different than the others. I will not pay my money to see this; I will not watch the trailer (again). If anyone asks me about the movie, I will point out as nicely as I can that this movie is a rip off, and then direct them to the true REPO! movie. Because THIS IS NOT IT. There is only one REPO!, and these people will not, cannot, and shall not take away from it!
Third, and this is the part I’m sure you’ve heard plenty of times, I’m going to protest my love to this movie here and now. REPO! is constantly on my iPod’s playlist. I actually walked out of seventh period today humming “Night Surgeon.” I just thought, you know, I’d throw that out there. And offer to help Nil issue out several rounds of “Slap-These-People-With-A-Zydrate-Gun.” I could never wish these thieves good luck as you have.
Terrance, you are a much better person than I am, and I applaud you for your take on this matter.
With much fan-girl, REPO! love,
~*Ali*~
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February 10th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
REPO! though not mainstream has gained such an amazing and unique fanbase. It’s just like you said; No one is going to be a “Jude Law” and acting out this Repo Men movie.
When I saw the trailer, I too was angry over the similarities between this and the amazing REPO!. You are right though, REPO! is about the art, the music, and the experience. Repo Men cannot match that, no matter how it does in the box office.
In all honesty, Repo Men just looks like another Hollywood overbudgeted movie with too many chase scenes, car stunts, and gun battles. Typical for the Hollywood scene, I guess, it will die down just like every other generic action film ever made. c: That makes me feel better at least.
Boycotting this movie, obviously. There are much better ways to spend a few hours than watching such mainstream ripped off garbage. Like staying home and watching REPO! for instance.
Way to be the better man, T, I have nothing but respect for you. C:
~ REPO! Fan Forever and Always, Dani.
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February 17th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
thanks for the blog post terrance and clarifying things up.
But like you said, emotions aside Repo Men looks like a great movie.
I screened the movie and thought it was witty, dark and action packed fun. Perhaps there are similar ideas but it is NOT THE SAME as Repo! – it is not an opera and the characters are completely different in personalities.
I definitely support Repo! but there is no need to boycott REPO MEN just because of certain similarities..
I mean, AVATAR’s storyline has similarities to Pocahontas, but you don’t see people boycotting AVATAR..
It’s just a far stretch for Repo! fans to boycott movies for minor similarities. I thought both Repo! the Opera was great as well as Repo Men the movie.
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February 24th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I agree, motherfuckign Testify.
However, Repo Men has nothing on Repo! It’ll probably be forgotten by years end. I think Universal bashed itself in opening the flood gates of nerd rage of Repo! fans. I will admit to feeling nerd rage anyhow.
I wish there was something more to be done, I just cant beleive how incredibly stupid Universal is. They saw the idea, the story, and it’s fan base and thought it could up their income by stealing it, well sad to say it isnt really gonna be that great I bet you anything.
Anyways much love, and stay away from the Zydrate ^.~
xoxo
Kachie
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February 25th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
I’ve known about Repo Men for awhile. I was irritated, yes, but I decided I would try to ignore it. Then I saw DeviantArt is actually sponsoring a contest and supporting the movie. It struck me as very…contradictive to what DA seems to be all about to support something like this.
I’m a Repo! fan all the way, and I’ll continue to be content just belting out songs like I have been. And…if I ever see this Jude Law-dressed person someday, I’ll probably sing at him or her.
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February 26th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
I am not a Repo fangirl (I enjoyed it certainly, I’m not…not a fan either, but I am on a much more casual level), but I was kinda…well my jaw dropped when I found out Repo Men was not tied in.
And I just wanted to say, reading this, this was…one of the most mature, classy responses to such a blatant rip off I’ve ever seen. I never would have thought less of you if you were foaming at the mouth, but I think…so much more of you because this was so….well put.
(And hey. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.)
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February 27th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Wow, Nil took the words right out of my mouth!
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March 2nd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
I’ve gone to the Shadowcasts in Sacramento; the one that just occured and the one that happened in December and truly, I know that this “Repo Men” won’t ever get that far. You have our support. (: I may consider seeing Repo Men, only because I want to actually see all the similarities for myself. Other than that, I stay on team Repo! the Genetic Opera.
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March 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I still strongly believe Repo Men is a complete Repo! opera cop-out *which it is* , I refuse to see Repo Men. Repo! the Genetic Opera is the ONLY Repo! and this copy cat simply will NEVER compare to the brilliance of Repo! the genetic opera. Repo Men/Repossession Mambo will NEVER have the same following Repo! Opera has and if repo men even is talked about after it comes out of theaters it wont be for long, and will be forgotten quickly! Repo! The Genetic Opera FOREVER!
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March 3rd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I agree that we should just chill about it sometimes but I still am frustrated with these people making This REPO MEN because it’s ridiculous and HORRIBLY unoriginal….It just makes me so angry that these people are able to take such SUCH brilliance, genius, creativity and originality that Repo! is and just crush it with this stupid, watered down, Mainstream movie with more action and the ever so loved sex scenes. It just happens more and more in this day and age and it is just sad…very very sad. Repo! is my absolute favorite musical and movie it will always be the best and this REPO MEN will never ever be better. No matter how many football obsessing, big tit loving, skanky, unimaginitive men and women that think it’s “kickass”.
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March 4th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
This post satisfies me, i’m really angry at the makers of Repo Men, but at least it satisfy me to know that by having seen Repo! The Genetic Opera, i have seen a gem of the silver screen. And the best i can do really, is to try to make the most people discover Repo!
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March 4th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Couldn’t this be viewed as good for Repo! in some way?
Repo! when it came out had a really small budget for advertising, and i barely heard of it, and didn’t hear of it till after it was already out on DVD, mostly through word of mouth from a friend.
With everyone comparing Repo! to Repo Men in the media, it’s like free advertising. There is no such thing as bad publicity (unless you’re Tiger Woods).
As a result of ppl comparing Repo! to Repo Men, more people might check out Repo! then would have other wise.
just my two cents.
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March 4th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Suing should be done. Not sure where I read it, but someone did find Repo Man taking direct quotes from Repo! And frankly the whole ‘the ideas are not’ is just bull in my opinion. Just away to get a lawsuit going
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March 4th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I am further amazed by your mature attitude about the situation. At first, I was sickened by the unoriginal actions that this “copy” perpetuated, but I expected nothing less. It seems anymore that movies are just remakes of comics, books, or other movies.
Like you said, it does not pose any kind of threat as Repo! was too unique and artistically amazing.
It’s appaling to come to the sudden realization that a big corporation can rip off ideas from smaller ones, and get away with it, but such is life. There will always be the big guy taking credit for the little guy’s ideas.
I know it will not be as big of a hit as Repo! was, so I’m not worried. Repo! will live on through the fans, the songs, the characters, and the unique and fresh artistic take on our society. =]
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March 4th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Repo Men will never be as awesome as REPO!, ’nuff said. Much love to you, Terrance!
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March 4th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Terrance ..you are truely a gentleman….I started cussing the second I saw the movie trailer and have been cussing every since!!!! But after reading your response… I also will take the high road and wish the project well…As you stated …it can and could never be our Repo!!!!By the way so loving OOTHECA
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March 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
sadly i figured that you wouldn’t be able to sue them…i hate that freaking red tape and how easy it is to worm through. ah well. as many have said up above, boycotting even going to repo men, and spreading the word… most people i’ve talked to have said if it means funding ripping off people, they’re never going to actually pay more than the 1 dollar at a red box to see the movie. and that only if they find themselves truly intrigued. personally, if no one walks over to my house with it in it’s hand… no chance i’m seeing it, and all my friends are Repo! fans… so fat chance.
Either way, love the work you guys did, no matter how decent of a film Repo Men could possibly be, you’re 1000000x better at least.
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March 6th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
so what would you say if every fan of the REAL Repo! dressed up as their favorite character to the opening of Repo Men?
DDDD
Because thats what my crew is doing,
and we HOPE that we get kicked out of the theatre for shouting out cumback lines.
you know, contributing to society and what not
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March 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I have never seen Repo!, and crazed fans are the only reason I refuse to see it. Just give it a rest. Universal would murder him if he attempted to take legal action. And it’s still a premise. He even says that.
As for Repo Men, just let the damn movie exist. Do you honestly expect it to make more money than your little rock opera? If Repo! is really as good as you say it is, you wouldn’t be threatened by Repo Men. Unless, of course, you don’t really think it’s as good as you say it is…
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March 10th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Well I’m glad that Terrance Zdunich has such a good positive attitude about this issue. But still, I’m gonna boycott this rip-off and encourage others to do the same (meaning I’ll refuse to pay money and support the company but I’ll definitely download it so I can see if it is in fact a good movie anyway
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March 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
My friends and I have all decided to boycott Repo Men. One of them is a writer for our college’s newspaper, and she’s written a commentary on the suspicious similarities between the two, trying to get the word out about the issue. Every time I hear anyone talking about the movie, I bring up Repo! and the majority of the people I talked to agreed that they would rather see Repo! My friends and I are also planning on having a get together the night Repo Men premieres, and we’re going to watch Repo! the whole time. Take that Hollywood! : )
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March 16th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Here is a facebook group for people interested in joining the Repo Revolution!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365777883126
Join up and help out!
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March 17th, 2010 at 8:21 am
It really is sad that there are people out there that don’t have the imagination to come up with their own stories or even titles to movies. This angers me just like the rest of you. I’ve spent hours and hours preparing my costume, and watching the movie over and over again so that when I actually see it again, in the movie theaters, I step through those doors as Amber Sweet. And I know there’s a lot of you that have done and feel the same. It makes it feel like it was pointless even though I know it wasn’t. Like the fans of Repo! are just beggars and they can step on us and crush us. But you know what, when that foot comes down we’ll all be holding a Zydrate gun in our hand and a scalpel in the other ready to take them out! Lol
Now there’s this crap coming out that doesn’t hold a candle to the creativity of everyone behind Repo!! I don’t care if I am the only one standing outside with a sign. I’m going to protest it all the way!
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March 17th, 2010 at 8:41 am
REPO! all the way, to hell with this b.s. hollywood spits out of their ass. I can’t even imagine what other good thing they’ll rape, kill, and defecate upon. Screw Repo Men, my friends and I who have seen REPO! will not support hollywood’s ass-hattery.
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March 20th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
It seems to me that a lot of Repo!’s iconography was used in the film – especially, and this is really damning, the company logo. If you turn The Union’s logo on its side, it’s almost exactly the same design. It makes me think Repo Men HAD to be stolen from Repo!
The only thing that makes me think that maybe the ideas were not stolen is because if you were to lift an idea to make a blockbuster, wouldn’t you want to change it a little bit more than that? Maybe get a different logo? So people could make comparisons, but not claim you stole the idea? Repo Men’s budget is a large, Hollywood-sized one. Why not pencil in a few hundred bucks to get a different logo designed?
Is it a huge coinkydink? I doubt it. It’s very, VERY suspicious!
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March 20th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@BrianS
We fans are not “threatened” in any way by this Repo Men movie because we *know* REPO! is awesome. What I object to is the blatant theft of ideas. Universal should have more than enough money considering all of the other so-called blockbusters they’ve come out with to hire decent talent and create more original ideas–and if they had to steal an idea, at least do it years later. Coming out with this movie while REPO! is still popular is not only creating a target for fan-hate but incredibly crass and tasteless. People can and will refuse to support this flash-in-the-pan ripoff on principle–out of loyalty to the play and the creators, and also out of respect for the hard work to make it successful. The world is full of dreamers who struggle to bring their ideas to light. Things like this discourage people and silence original thought. Who wants someone to steal their
ideas through some tacky legal loophole?
If they had to do anything, they should have created another rock opera. Obviously, plenty of people are open to the idea, and who knows, it could start a whole new genre. Another opera could have coexisted quite nicely. But something like this…Terrance, you are a gentleman through and through, and please, continue to bring your dreams to life–we’re eager to see them.
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March 21st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
When I first heard about this cheap disgusting rip off I was furious. Not sure why I didn’t make the movie so I guess I shouldn’t have been pissed but still… I’m impressed by your cool head about all this and I gotta say, with this new prospective on this problem, you are completely right. “Repo Men” could not hope to acheive the state of epic that Repo! has redefined. Keep being a fucking genious and I’ll let this “Repo Men” crap slide.
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March 21st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
“As fans of REPO!, this gives you a unique opportunity to testify to those who bring up Repo Men…”
… Just have to say that at this point, I started singing Testify!
And yeah, you should still be able to sue them- no matter they don’t take direct quotes… this is still a load of bull!
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March 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I’m gonna dress up like Pavi Largo, and go crash REPO MEN with some friends with REPO! posters in hand. Let’s convince congress to pass a bill legalizing the copyright of ideas!
TESTIFY!
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August 12th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
while i hate the idea that hollywood cant help but rip off the ideas of movies that define my life (yes i actually owe some things to your movie i wouldnt have met my girlfreind if i hadnt seen it
) i have to admire your poise and civility at the fact that there is something out there that is aripoff of your original idea. i applaud you man….. BRAVI, BRAVI, BRAVISSIMA
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August 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
I\’m really annoyed by this Repo Men Movie. Today I even had an argument with someone who confused Repo! and Repo Men both being made after an old movie. but after looking it up there is no movi like that. only Repo Man, but this one is like completely different. so I still got to tell him I was right xD
and show the real movie to a friend who watched Repo Men and thought it was horrible
oh and after watching those translated scenes they made to check if the movie would sound good in german… I\’m glad they gave up on dubbing it german those test scenes were only so bad they were funnyxD
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